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Old 08-23-2009, 5:52 PM   #61
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

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GNSS said: References to advising "registered users" tends to indicate a backdoor approach as not everybody using 500's will be "registered users" under CCP etc

So does this mean this "update" will only install on receivers with CCP and maintenance agreements?
I am just glad I bought my GPS off Leica, not second hand or they wouldn't have me on record. My 2 SR530s are nearly 9 yrs old and this is the first problem I 've had except replacing the batteries a few times over the years.

As I understand it, there are no CCPs for GPS500, and this firmware patch version 5.10 is free to all users.

Similarly, in March 2008 when a 31st GPS satellite was launched, GPS500 was unable to handle more than 30 satellites and froze (at time of design in late 90s, >30 sats were unheard of). 5.06 firmware was released then to fix this for free, 4 years after GPS500 ceased production. So I'm not sure how you guys using version 2 are working or maybe you don't do RTK?

I agree they still should have notified on their website though as not all users are in touch with dealers or Leica offices.
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Old 08-23-2009, 6:08 PM   #62
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pedram55, no you have to go through the versions step by step, 2 to 3 to 4 to 5.06, then 5.10. You can't jump past a version. I don't know where you can get old versions from (not on Leica website) other than ask your Leica dealer.
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Old 08-23-2009, 6:47 PM   #63
 
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As I understand it, there are no CCPs for GPS500, and this firmware patch version 5.10 is free to all users.

Similarly, in March 2008 when a 31st GPS satellite was launched, GPS500 was unable to handle more than 30 satellites and froze (at time of design in late 90s, >30 sats were unheard of). 5.06 firmware was released then to fix this for free, 4 years after GPS500 ceased production. So I'm not sure how you guys using version 2 are working or maybe you don't do RTK?

I agree they still should have notified on their website though as not all users are in touch with dealers or Leica offices.
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If 5.06 was a free upgrade then why is the download locked and only available to contract customers, dealers and internal users?

Yes it does appear there is quite a bit of difference between dealers depending n the country.
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Old 08-23-2009, 8:08 PM   #64
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If 5.06 was a free upgrade then why is the download locked and only available to contract customers, dealers and internal users?

I dunno about the download lock, but I don't have a maintenance contract for GPS500 and they emailed me the firmware and instructions on Thurs so I then uploaded it for others and posted here.

We will see what their website says on Mon (Swiss time).
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pedram55, no you have to go through the versions step by step, 2 to 3 to 4 to 5.06, then 5.10. You can't jump past a version. I don't know where you can get old versions from (not on Leica website) other than ask your Leica dealer.
Thnk you ABB for your answer.
i bought these units (SR510) 9 years ago .
and when i turn them on i see onfirst start uppage gps ver is 2.03 ( it ison a black line ) is it true ?
can you help me and see your units CD and tell me what is your first firmware version .
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Old 08-24-2009, 1:25 AM   #66
 
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So where is the download
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Old 08-24-2009, 7:41 AM   #67
 
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Has anybody heard from leica about proper version of this updated firmware?
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Old 08-24-2009, 8:34 AM   #68
 
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I have spent hours searching for the firmware patch and sending Leica emails,come on Leica make it easier for us to get it.
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:51 AM   #71
 
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Thanks for the info. I used a cable and SKI-Pro to load the firmware. I don;t have PCMCIA cards anymore. I use CF cards and an adaptor which Leica warns not to use. System is working and tracking sats.
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Old 08-24-2009, 1:23 PM   #72
 
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Monday, August 17, 2009, will not be remembered fondly by Leica System 500 users. Perhaps next Monday, the 24th, will be. I just spoke with Leica's rep in Atlanta and was told that Leica will test the patch through the weekend to verify that the GPS week rollover will not create yet another problem. If that goes well Lecia will post the patch on their website and send registered users an email.

On the other hand I found the following quote in GPS World Magazine:

[b]</H3>Now if I only understood Swedish...
I did not need to understand swedish; Just opeen the page in a Swedish-English Page Translator (there are tonnes on Google search) and downloaded the file gps500_510_sv and you know what? It has an english complete with a pdf instruction manual.Get back to the field now!
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Old 08-24-2009, 2:13 PM   #73
 
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Hello!

There is a caution NOT to use CF cards in an adapter. We have PCMCIA cards, but they are 16M. The instructions with the patch say that the card should be >4MB.

Has anyone tried loading the 5.10 patch with a larger card?

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Old 08-24-2009, 3:06 PM   #74
 
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I have, on an original Leica PCMCIA card 16Mb it works fine.
It has to be bigger than 4Mb because the firmwaer is 3.6 Mb.
Have done 2 units already. Next 4 units are scheduled tomorrow.
The GPS has to be on for more than 1/2 hour after the update so the almanac gets fully updated.
One week no GPS, that was a major problem.

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Old 08-24-2009, 3:13 PM   #75
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

Has anyone gotten a firmware fix for the SR20 date issue?

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Old 08-24-2009, 6:05 PM   #76
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Thnk you ABB for your answer.
i bought these units (SR510) 9 years ago .
and when i turn them on i see onfirst start uppage gps ver is 2.03 ( it ison a black line ) is it true ?
can you help me and see your units CD and tell me what is your first firmware version .
pedram55,

The SR510s are L1 (single frequency only), not capable of RTK (SR530s), so I guess that is why you never upgraded firmware before.

To check your firmware version, press the STATUS key, then 3 General, 3 Software versions and it is the top line that is your current version. The Leica website says contact your local dealer for the archive of firmware. Sorry I can't be any more help
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:46 PM   #77
 
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thank you ABB i am contact with my local dealer and they havent earlier version.
dose anyone have an email address from leica in switzerland to contact them?
i go to feedback for and after filling form this message appear :
The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator.

Your support ID is: 6994317214624318757
please help me and send me email address .i dont know what should i do with this powerfull and secret support!!!
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:54 PM   #78
 
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Old 08-25-2009, 9:16 AM   #79
 
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Has anyone gotten a firmware fix for the SR20 date issue?

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From the "Official" Series 500 patch information

Along with the GPS System 500 receivers the GS20 and SR20 share the same measurement engine, they are having a similar issue. A fix for these receivers is already in the works. We will keep you updated to the status of that fix as well.

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Old 08-27-2009, 6:09 AM   #80
 
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my system 500 version is under 4 .and i havent access to representive.
can anybody help me for upgrade from ver 2 to 5.10?
i think there is a problem in uploadig.com when i wantto download files this messeage appear :
THE DAILY TRAFFIC LIMIT FOR YOUR COUNTRY IS CONSUMED. IT'S TIME TO BUY A PREMIUM ACCOUNT! (or you can try again tomorrow) PREMIUM ACCOUNT

please upload files on other serves
thank you all surveyours
Hi!Pedram55,

Have you upgraded your unit?? we have the same version which is FW 2.xx and 3.xx, After Leica rep gave me the patch and installed it did not finish the process so i was told to removed and return the power and switching it ON, it displays:

Error:
Following error detected during start up:
---> Invalid Firmware
Please download new frimware

i hope somebody could share his expertise..Thanks.
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Thanks for the info. I used a cable and SKI-Pro to load the firmware. I don;t have PCMCIA cards anymore. I use CF cards and an adaptor which Leica warns not to use. System is working and tracking sats.
Hi! rjones, what type of cable and version of Ski-pro did you used??
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Old 08-27-2009, 6:13 AM   #82
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

For what it's worth, we had version 4.00 and 5.0 on our units. we tried the upgrade on one using the ATA card method and the other using the Serial cablle through GFO - BOTH FAILED and I get the same error now on boot-up.

Waiting for rep to return call/email

AAAAAARRRRGHH!

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Old 09-22-2009, 12:41 PM   #83
 
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I used Ski-pro ver3 and a serial cable that would plug into the same port that the keyboard plugs into. I'm not sure what that the model number was on the cable but it had the 9 pin female plug on one end and the same type plug on the other end that would plug into the keyboard port. Even though I was able to get the patch to work, the company I work for bought a new Trimble R8 model 3 GPS system for me to use. One of the reasons they went with Trimble and not a Leica was the problem we all had with the 500.
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Old 09-23-2009, 7:25 AM   #84
 
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Maybe the company you work for could also keep up to date with software versions. Ski-pro has not been around for years and current version is LGO 7? So is your computer that old that it still uses a serial keyboard/mouse? Time for a new computer to go with your new R8's.

Maybe you should have updated to 1200's 5 years ago?
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Old 10-10-2009, 3:25 PM   #85
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

hi everyone
I rceived a system 530 which the owner tried to update the firmware and make it halt.
I tried another flash card,lgeo office software upload and anything I know but the display stops on transfer and I have to remove the battery to reboot the system500.

So if there is any suggestion please let me know.
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Old 10-22-2009, 5:41 PM   #86
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

Hi. I was hoping someone might have some suggestions. I was using a Leica GS20 in the field last to get some elevation readings. Until now I was totally unaware of the above issues of the 500 (I see the GS20 was also mentioned). The unit seemed to work and took readings fine over a full hour (matching roughly with a Garmin handheld GPS).

However I started trying to post process it and only than noticed all the dates begin in Feb 1990 but the times are correct. I have field notes with the correct dates. Anyone know how I could manually change the dates of the readings (if this is even possible ?!? ) to allow for post processing? Or are the readings totally useless? I am only needing sub meter accuracy for the elevation.

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Old 10-25-2009, 6:15 PM   #87
 
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Editing the dates could only be done in Rinex and might be an interesting exercise but would probably take you more time than to simply redo the survey? Editing just the dates would be a lot less critical than the times. Are you exactly sure the times are perfectly ok?

If so then why not try just a small section of the rinex files which wil include both the Obs (header & data) and Nav file times.

If mine then I would probably simply re-do the survey.
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Old 11-01-2009, 2:26 PM   #88
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

hello. I'd like to make an external battery cable for my SR530. I have a cable with a big and a small lemo. I'd like to change the small with the battery, but I don't know which is + and -. Can anybody help me?
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Old 11-01-2009, 4:30 PM   #89
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

SR530 can be powered through the Power or Port2/Power sockets. Both are 5 pin type Lemo FGG.1B.305.CLCx.xxZ

Looking at the bottom of the SR530 with the data slot door in the top right hand corner, PWR socket is marked as the bottom left most bottom socket, Port2/PWR is the next socket left of Port1.

5 pin Lemo config is Pin1 (Batt/12V+) is top most pin and then run anti-clockwise so Pin3 (Ground -) is at about 7 o'clock.

In modifying what ever cable you might have you also do this knowing something about what you are doing and take full responsibility.
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Old 11-09-2009, 4:40 PM   #90
 
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Re: Leica 500 - Local Date Issues

Thanks GNSS (#87)! Editing the dates in Rinex has allowed it to work. Our results match the few trig beacons in the study - so it seems it was just the date that was wrong, all the other data seems good. The reason for requiring the editing is that the study area was about 5000km away from where I am so re-doing the survey was out of the question.

Thanks again
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