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Old 01-14-2008, 3:50 PM   #1
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Route on PC, load to GPS

The nuvi 750 can hold 10 routes (owners manual, page 12), but apparently those routes must be created on the GPS itself.

I want to route on the PC and load completed routes to the nuvi.

Can this be done? As long as they are in the right format, will the GPS recognize them, regardless of how they got there?
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:27 PM   #2
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Mapsource...you should be able to I would think, but I'll let Andy take this one as he rolls with his Nuvi daily
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I haven't tried it yet but tomorrow I'll bring it home and check it out.
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Dav, the Nuvi 660 holds zero routes. However check out the 770's owners manual look at page 28 where it says,

"If you have transferred a route from Mapsource, touch Import Route From File to use that route in your Nuvi."

This sounds like you can pre-build a route in Mapsource, save it as a file and then import it once loaded onto the 770. I wonder if the "send to device" button [inside Mapsource] would work as well to transfer to the 770.

I checked the "in the box" tab on Garmin's 770 page and it doesn't look like it came with a version of Mapsource or even the trip and waypoint manager. Is this the case? Did you get Mapsource with it?

If not, call or email Garmin and ask for a free version of City Nav NT so you can build and load routes from your PC. Hopefully they still do this. I did that when I got the 660 and they agreed even though it won't let you import a route into the 660 from Mapsource. I told them I needed it to plan ahead before entering destinations on the device itself.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:38 PM   #5
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Re: Route on PC, load to GPS

Sigh, why do they have to make things confusing?

The 7xx series comes with city nav nt pre-installed. But that is the GPS version, I don't think it can be used on the PC.

I did find the "import route" button, finally. Haven't tried it yet, since I'm not sure what kind of route it thinks it can import.

Also, was just looking at the Garmin site, and Mapsource is a free download... but it won't work unless you have a mapsource map.

I'll keep ya posted...
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Old 01-16-2008, 1:06 AM   #6
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You need to get City Nav NT DVD from Garmin and all will be simple.
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Did you get the yellow piece of paper in the package with it, is the question...edit: nuvi received..

If you do, yeah you should be able to download it and plugin that map key and voila!


i have a similar function on my Zumo, and basically it lets people email me routes (as some type of attachment, or via the webapp on the zumo minisite) and then I can import them onto the Zumo.

Oh, then again there is always putting the routes onto an SD card and 'importing' them that way too.


p.s. In the future you'll see more www-centric routing items, like things on google earth and such, so I think that is why these exist on the 770 (well, the ability to import I mean)
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Old 01-16-2008, 4:54 PM   #8
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Max, I have received my nuvi. I had a registration problem, and the Help folks mentioned the yellow paper, too. Unfortunately, there was no yellow paper in the box.

The route import would have to be from the SD card, since you cannot access the "import route" feature while connected to a computer. Actually, I guess you could load it to the internal memory, and then import it...

Garmin Help has been quick and helpful so far, I think I'll write them and ask for a PC copy of City Nav NT.

I have seen a link on Garmin for downloading MapSource. I have not seen one for City Nav. Do you know of such a link, or are you extrapolating from MapSource experience?

I think I may be confused about the function of MapSource vs. City Nav NT, too. Can you guys clarify it for me by any chance?
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Max, I have received my nuvi. I had a registration problem, and the Help folks mentioned the yellow paper, too. Unfortunately, there was no yellow paper in the box.

The route import would have to be from the SD card, since you cannot access the "import route" feature while connected to a computer. Actually, I guess you could load it to the internal memory, and then import it...

Garmin Help has been quick and helpful so far, I think I'll write them and ask for a PC copy of City Nav NT.

I have seen a link on Garmin for downloading MapSource. I have not seen one for City Nav. Do you know of such a link, or are you extrapolating from MapSource experience?

I think I may be confused about the function of MapSource vs. City Nav NT, too. Can you guys clarify it for me by any chance?
Sorry - I forgot you got it already (how time flies...it was just last week you had an exception, duh me).

Yes the route import would have to be from internal memory, OR with mapsource you have the ability to push routes, waypoints, (tracks, in some cases), or maps to a device.

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Does that answer your questions?
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Old 01-16-2008, 8:48 PM   #10
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I think so. Thanks.
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Old 01-17-2008, 6:00 AM   #11
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I've been asked enough about it, so look for future answers here

http://www.gpsdiscussion.com/garmin-....html#post2827
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The easy answer is Mapsource is the app, city nav [or whatever] is the database. You need both! fortunately, Mapsource is free.
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Old 01-17-2008, 4:13 PM   #13
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egadgetguy, good, very concise answer.

Expanding on (without confusing the issue too much, I hope) is that the functionality of MapSource is partially limited by the database being used. If the database does not include routing info, then MapSource cannot auto-route.

Thanks, guys!
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egadgetguy, good, very concise answer.

Expanding on (without confusing the issue too much, I hope) is that the functionality of MapSource is partially limited by the database being used. If the database does not include routing info, then MapSource cannot auto-route.

Thanks, guys!
That's exactly how it works. If you are using a product like Metroguide v2, it doesn't have auto-routing functions, routing "as the crow flies" only. When you use a gps that doesn't do auto routing there is a toggle to not include routing data when you upload map sets into a device to save space.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:51 PM   #15
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Re: Route on PC, load to GPS

Received my response from Tech Support. Very good, under 8 hrs to respond.

And not a bad answer, just not quite the answer to the question I asked.

What they will do is send me the DVD of City Nav NT for $15 + S&H, since my preinstalled version does not work with MapSource.

That'll do.
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That's not bad. You'll be able to pre plan routes and upload them. Since they quote that as a selling point, I wonder why they didn't iclude a DVD version to use that feature.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:44 AM   #17
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I have to actually call and talk to someone, the email tech support could not actually set me up with the DVD.

So, as long as I have them on the phone, I'll ask. In fact, I'll probably whine "whyyy?"
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Just ask them where the routes are supposed to come from that you want to download. I'll give you a buck if you record their response to you telling them :

"I asked around and none of my friends had routes, nor did my family, I don't trust the people at flea markets, so I guess I have to make my own...but how?"
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Old 01-18-2008, 3:34 PM   #19
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I did call this morning. Tech support handed me off to software support.

They were really nice, even if they didn't actually know anything about the products, so I didn't want to give them too hard a time.

They could not tell me whether there is any way to use my preinstalled maps with MapSource, but they do have a standard procedure to handle this, which is to send you a "replacement" CD/DVD for $15 (plus S&H).

It did not sound like there were going to be any other options, so I went ahead and ordered it. $21.00 total. She had to check whether they actually had any!
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I did get my Mapsouce maps for free by whinning. They work great with the 750. You can map out a route on your PC and download it to your Nuvi.
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That is really good news Sydster, thanks for sharing
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