KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates - Page 2

astrodanco · 09-10-2008, 3:02 PM

I doubt that would work.

The City Navigator maps installed on any particular unit are software locked to that specific unit and will not work with any other unit. They can't just be copied as-is from one unit to another unit.

If you purchase a City Navigator NT DVD from Garmin (or if you already have one), you can purchase additional unlock codes from the Garmin web site so that you can load the maps onto additional units.

There are also ways to pirate City Navigator so that it'll run on any unit you like without an unlock code, but I won't discuss that here.

dav · 09-10-2008, 5:43 PM

Highly unlikely. The nüvi 760 map will be locked to the serial number of that unit.

You can put the map on another unit, but it probably won't load.

astrodanco beat me to it.

mercm3 · 09-10-2008, 6:52 PM

gotcha so what Brian was talking about was utilizing the NT Navigator DVD to create maps on SD card for the KNA-G510.

astrodanco · 09-10-2008, 7:11 PM

Years ago when you purchased a map DVD, Garmin would give you two unlock codes so that you could load the maps onto two separate units. But these days get only one unlock code with each DVD purchase. This has had the effect of discouraging second Garmin GPS purchases (or encouraging map pirating, depending on the individual).

mercm3 · 09-11-2008, 2:59 PM

ok gotcha. I noticed on the garmin site Kenwood map updates have a different part number as opposed to regular NT Navigator updates anyone know why? I was thinking of possibly getting a map update from a cheaper reseller but most only have the standard NT Navigator part number as opposed to the kenwood update. Wondering what the differences were.

mr2nr · 10-24-2008, 10:25 AM

It doesn't help me to update from 07 to 09 has the 09 still doesn't have the new overpass in my town and has led me too a couple dead ends in Kansas City. Garmin had better get on the ball or I might have to switch too nothing

astrodanco · 10-24-2008, 11:32 AM

Are you honestly worried about missing changes in areas that you are already familiar with? Although the GPSR may not know about road changes in such areas, YOU do. I wouldn't rely the GPSR to navigate anywhere that you're already familiar with. You're likely to know better than it does. You might use it to locate and pinpoint a specific address that you've never been to before in an otherwise familiar area, but not much else.

The only time when I really count on my GPSR and when being up-to-date map wise is important is when I'm in a totally unfamiliar area for the very first time. Also, when I'm familiar with an area, I put the GPSr into 2D North up mode. When I'm unfamiliar with an area and following a GPSR calculated route, I put it into 3D heading up mode.

mr2nr · 10-24-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by astrodanco

Are you honestly worried about missing changes in areas that you are already familiar with? Although the GPSR may not know about road changes in such areas, YOU do. I wouldn't rely the GPSR to navigate anywhere that you're already familiar with. You're likely to know better than it does. You might use it to locate and pinpoint a specific address that you've never been to before in an otherwise familiar area, but not much else.

The only time when I really count on my GPSR and when being up-to-date map wise is important is when I'm in a totally unfamiliar area for the very first time. Also, when I'm familiar with an area, I put the GPSr into 2D North up mode. When I'm unfamiliar with an area and following a GPSR calculated route, I put it into 3D heading up mode.

But if it's wrong in my area it's more than 60% wrong in your area too. Besides that it's wrong in everybody elses GPS and that little road handles 10,000 cars a day. If you go by the GPS you will think you are in the wrong state. If I'm paying $100+ for maps they better have it right!!!

What are we supposed to do? Say nothing while people drive off the cliff? But since we know the cliff is there we don't need to put up a sign?!

astrodanco · 10-24-2008, 12:01 PM

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But if it's wrong in my area it's more than 60% wrong in your area too.

That's an interesting statistic. How did you come up with that?

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Besides that it's wrong in everybody elses GPS

If they're using a Garmin, yup!

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If I'm paying $100+ for maps they better have it right!!!

I wish they did, but it seems that such accuracy and timeliness realistically costs quite a bit more than that to obtain. BTW, I hope you didn't actually pay that much to update your maps.

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What are we supposed to do?

From my experience, I gather we're expected to grin and bear it.

mr2nr · 10-24-2008, 12:19 PM

Well I have to go have fun on here

3aFaReeT · 12-20-2008, 1:44 PM

I have a G510 with USA Maps, i moved the unit with me in the middle East Oman where i work now and loaded Oman Maps onto the SD Card. the problem that i face is that i dont get Sattlitle reception / Signal and the device tuns off if i dont keep navigating the menus almost if left unattended for a minute. Can anyone help.

TBSS06 · 01-10-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 3aFaReeT

I have a G510 with USA Maps, i moved the unit with me in the middle East Oman where i work now and loaded Oman Maps onto the SD Card. the problem that i face is that i dont get Sattlitle reception / Signal and the device tuns off if i dont keep navigating the menus almost if left unattended for a minute. Can anyone help.

I'd check to make sure you have the latest firmware for the device. You may need to update it. I was having issues w/ my unit back in August and once I updated to 3.60, it worked again. You can get the update here. You will need to copy the update to an SD card, apply the change and then you can go back to the Oman SD maps.

3aFaReeT · 01-10-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TBSS06

I'd check to make sure you have the latest firmware for the device. You may need to update it. I was having issues w/ my unit back in August and once I updated to 3.60, it worked again. You can get the update here. You will need to copy the update to an SD card, apply the change and then you can go back to the Oman SD maps.

Thank you.. I have already done that and it worked fine : )

jeff · 02-18-2009, 5:17 AM

Firstly, I just wanted to say a quick thanks for the posts explaining how to update/change maps natively on the unit (Didn't even notice it had a mini-USB plug on it!!). As I have a KNA-G510, but live here in Australia, it would be nice to have the native map a local one and not use an SD card.

However, one niggling problem is the US unit (Unsurprisingly) only has American English and Spanish (I think) as the voice options. I'm guessing the European and Australian units expand this to British/UK English and Australian English, but I can't find these voices for sale or download anywhere. Does anyone know where you can get them, or if they are not copyrighted, would someone be kind enough to email me either please?

TIA

merlin001 · 02-22-2009, 4:42 AM

Okay, I used MapInstall to update my unlocked map onto an SD card. I am using City Navigator North America NT 2009. My G510 reads the updated map, but will not let me perform searches. All I get is "No detail maps are available to search". Any suggestions?

astrodanco · 05-24-2009, 11:48 PM

I have now successfully updated the maps on my KNA-G510 to City Navigator North America NT 2010.1. I just installed the map update, fired up Mapsource (Mapinstall also works just as well), applied a map unlock key, selected all the segments, wrote the map to a 2G SD card, then put the card into the unit.

LVMike · 08-15-2009, 11:57 PM

I recently downloaded 2010 and wanted to overwrite 09 on G510. I put the file on an sd card put that in the sd slot on the G510. All this did was freeze the nav program. I changed the file name from supp to prom with the same result....nav froze. I brought the G510 inside and connected mini-usb to laptop.....nothing. Took laptop to garage and then G510 was recognized by laptop and I could see the folder/files. I cut and pasted the original as a just in case. Then copy and pasted the 2010 img file to the G510. Yes, in total it took almost 2 hours to do this. What a pain that the sd card idea did not work and the G510 could not be powered by the pc and had to have the car in accessory mode to power. Any help on how I can do this next year easier? Also, I tried to look at the file in mapsource and it will not open an img file.......thoughts?
Thanks,
Mike

BigAl · 08-18-2009, 1:48 AM

Does anyone know when the SD for US/Canada City Navigator NT will be available for 2010 - Garmin has it available in other formats, but not on a SD card for Kenwood?

HumVee · 08-21-2009, 12:43 PM

mercm3, I think that you have to associate City Navigator maps with the serial number from one GPS unit. I don't think you can then simply copy over the IMG file and expect it to work in another Garmin based device.... I suspect that if you wish to get new maps for your KNA-G510, you'll have to purchase it separately.

ILOVETHIS · 09-26-2009, 1:18 AM

OK OK OK .....I have done everything and still can't get my system to upgrade to 2010.

i bought the chip from garmin (SD) 99$ and when i updated it the whole system locked up so i call garmin and the answer was .....sorry send it in for repair.

So i down loaded someones 2010 nt (sd) card info and just pluged it in and it worked great but only had half of the maps...should have down this to start with.

..no the only problem is i have a system with only half the maps i need , i paid for the sd chip and it sucked. WHAT DO I DO NOW????

Keep looking for the full version of city nav north american nt 2010 for the kenwood KNA-G510 on the internet? If ANYONE has a great idea extraextraextra@cox.net email me..!!!!

HumVee · 09-26-2009, 9:58 AM

I'm sorry, ILOVETHIS, but I don't understand the scenario you're describing. If you purchased a preloaded map card from Garmin, there would be no updating involved - just install the SD card into your Garmin GPS & power it up. One of the downsides of purchasing preloaded map cards is that they can not be updated - you have to purchase a new version map card if you want the latest update. Their advantage is that if you have multiple Garmin GPS devices, you can quickly move the map from device to device. Personally, I only buy the CD/DVD version maps. That way I can load them into MapSource on my computer as well as download them to my GPS.

If the update wasn't a map update (say a firmware/software update), then I could see how it might get corrupted and mess up your GPS - but the solution to fix it wouldn't be to slap in an illegal copy of a map. If the firmware was corrupted, then doing a hard reset, re-installing an update or sending the GPS in to the factory would be the solutions I would expect....

If you're saying that your Garmin locks up whenever you insert the preloaded SD card you purchased from Garmin, then I'd suggest you contact Garmin and ask for a replacement!

habramowski · 09-28-2009, 3:02 PM

I bit the bullet about a month ago and bought the Garmin 2010 update SD. As far as I can see - for where I live, los angeles, and my sisters area, suburb of Charlotte NC - the garmin 2010 MAP on SD was a complete ripoff.

NOTHING NEW appears or is known. my base system was a 2006 map. the upgrade is suppose to be 2010. And yet - all my LA COI are as incomplete today as they were before the SD upgrade.

my two cents...........

HumVee · 09-29-2009, 5:09 AM

SD is a complete map, not an upgrade. All Garmin downloads & preloaded map cards are not upgradeable. The only map items that I know of that are upgradeable/updateable are the road maps on CD or DVD. Go into map options and deselect your 2006 map and make sure the 2010 map is selected. You still may not notice any new POI's or roads marked - in which case I commiserate with you....

drdave00 · 10-25-2009, 7:08 PM

I just updated my kna to NT 2010 maps with the Garmin SD card. I just put card in slot on kna and started vehicle,checked my nav map settings and 2010 was enabled!! All my custom POI'S and Favorites were all there! Need to do a road trip to see what is updated.

kristian · 01-20-2010, 9:17 AM

Hi,

It appears from the Garmin website that the KNA-G510, 520 and 421V uses the same firmware. Does that mean that upgrading the 510 to the latest firmware will give you more voice guidance languages and text-to-speech languages? I'm thinking of Norwegian specifically (which the 520 and 421V lists in the specs).

danko · 07-22-2011, 10:27 AM

During the firmware update the screen went blank, I unplugged it after about 15 minutes, but now it shows garmin logo, then restarts, garmin logo again, restarts and it cycles like that.

I figure that the firmware is corrupted. Is there any way that I can do hard reset/factory reset on this device?

09-10-2008, 3:02 PM	#31
astrodanco Join Date: Sep 05 2008 Location: USA Posts: 22	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I doubt that would work. The City Navigator maps installed on any particular unit are software locked to that specific unit and will not work with any other unit. They can't just be copied as-is from one unit to another unit. If you purchase a City Navigator NT DVD from Garmin (or if you already have one), you can purchase additional unlock codes from the Garmin web site so that you can load the maps onto additional units. There are also ways to pirate City Navigator so that it'll run on any unit you like without an unlock code, but I won't discuss that here.

09-10-2008, 5:43 PM	#32
dav Moderator Join Date: Jan 04 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,243	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Highly unlikely. The nüvi 760 map will be locked to the serial number of that unit. You can put the map on another unit, but it probably won't load. astrodanco beat me to it.

09-10-2008, 6:52 PM	#33
mercm3 Join Date: Sep 08 2008 Location: california Posts: 3	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates gotcha so what Brian was talking about was utilizing the NT Navigator DVD to create maps on SD card for the KNA-G510.

09-10-2008, 7:11 PM	#34
astrodanco Join Date: Sep 05 2008 Location: USA Posts: 22	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Years ago when you purchased a map DVD, Garmin would give you two unlock codes so that you could load the maps onto two separate units. But these days get only one unlock code with each DVD purchase. This has had the effect of discouraging second Garmin GPS purchases (or encouraging map pirating, depending on the individual).

09-11-2008, 2:59 PM	#35
mercm3 Join Date: Sep 08 2008 Location: california Posts: 3	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates ok gotcha. I noticed on the garmin site Kenwood map updates have a different part number as opposed to regular NT Navigator updates anyone know why? I was thinking of possibly getting a map update from a cheaper reseller but most only have the standard NT Navigator part number as opposed to the kenwood update. Wondering what the differences were.

10-24-2008, 10:25 AM	#36
mr2nr Join Date: Jul 09 2008 Location: Missouri USA Posts: 10	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates It doesn't help me to update from 07 to 09 has the 09 still doesn't have the new overpass in my town and has led me too a couple dead ends in Kansas City. Garmin had better get on the ball or I might have to switch too nothing

10-24-2008, 11:32 AM	#37
astrodanco Join Date: Sep 05 2008 Location: USA Posts: 22	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Are you honestly worried about missing changes in areas that you are already familiar with? Although the GPSR may not know about road changes in such areas, YOU do. I wouldn't rely the GPSR to navigate anywhere that you're already familiar with. You're likely to know better than it does. You might use it to locate and pinpoint a specific address that you've never been to before in an otherwise familiar area, but not much else. The only time when I really count on my GPSR and when being up-to-date map wise is important is when I'm in a totally unfamiliar area for the very first time. Also, when I'm familiar with an area, I put the GPSr into 2D North up mode. When I'm unfamiliar with an area and following a GPSR calculated route, I put it into 3D heading up mode.

10-24-2008, 12:19 PM	#40
mr2nr Join Date: Jul 09 2008 Location: Missouri USA Posts: 10	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Well I have to go have fun on here

12-20-2008, 1:44 PM	#41
3aFaReeT Join Date: Dec 20 2008 Location: Muscat Posts: 2	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I have a G510 with USA Maps, i moved the unit with me in the middle East Oman where i work now and loaded Oman Maps onto the SD Card. the problem that i face is that i dont get Sattlitle reception / Signal and the device tuns off if i dont keep navigating the menus almost if left unattended for a minute. Can anyone help.

02-18-2009, 5:17 AM	#44
jeff Join Date: Feb 18 2009 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Firstly, I just wanted to say a quick thanks for the posts explaining how to update/change maps natively on the unit (Didn't even notice it had a mini-USB plug on it!!). As I have a KNA-G510, but live here in Australia, it would be nice to have the native map a local one and not use an SD card. However, one niggling problem is the US unit (Unsurprisingly) only has American English and Spanish (I think) as the voice options. I'm guessing the European and Australian units expand this to British/UK English and Australian English, but I can't find these voices for sale or download anywhere. Does anyone know where you can get them, or if they are not copyrighted, would someone be kind enough to email me either please? TIA

02-22-2009, 4:42 AM	#45
merlin001 Join Date: Feb 22 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Okay, I used MapInstall to update my unlocked map onto an SD card. I am using City Navigator North America NT 2009. My G510 reads the updated map, but will not let me perform searches. All I get is "No detail maps are available to search". Any suggestions?

05-24-2009, 11:48 PM	#46
astrodanco Join Date: Sep 05 2008 Location: USA Posts: 22	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I have now successfully updated the maps on my KNA-G510 to City Navigator North America NT 2010.1. I just installed the map update, fired up Mapsource (Mapinstall also works just as well), applied a map unlock key, selected all the segments, wrote the map to a 2G SD card, then put the card into the unit.

08-15-2009, 11:57 PM	#47
LVMike Join Date: Aug 15 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I recently downloaded 2010 and wanted to overwrite 09 on G510. I put the file on an sd card put that in the sd slot on the G510. All this did was freeze the nav program. I changed the file name from supp to prom with the same result....nav froze. I brought the G510 inside and connected mini-usb to laptop.....nothing. Took laptop to garage and then G510 was recognized by laptop and I could see the folder/files. I cut and pasted the original as a just in case. Then copy and pasted the 2010 img file to the G510. Yes, in total it took almost 2 hours to do this. What a pain that the sd card idea did not work and the G510 could not be powered by the pc and had to have the car in accessory mode to power. Any help on how I can do this next year easier? Also, I tried to look at the file in mapsource and it will not open an img file.......thoughts? Thanks, Mike

08-18-2009, 1:48 AM	#48
BigAl Join Date: Aug 18 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Does anyone know when the SD for US/Canada City Navigator NT will be available for 2010 - Garmin has it available in other formats, but not on a SD card for Kenwood?

08-21-2009, 12:43 PM	#49
HumVee Join Date: May 11 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,254	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates mercm3, I think that you have to associate City Navigator maps with the serial number from one GPS unit. I don't think you can then simply copy over the IMG file and expect it to work in another Garmin based device.... I suspect that if you wish to get new maps for your KNA-G510, you'll have to purchase it separately.

09-26-2009, 1:18 AM	#50
ILOVETHIS Join Date: Sep 26 2009 Location: Az Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates OK OK OK .....I have done everything and still can't get my system to upgrade to 2010. i bought the chip from garmin (SD) 99$ and when i updated it the whole system locked up so i call garmin and the answer was .....sorry send it in for repair. So i down loaded someones 2010 nt (sd) card info and just pluged it in and it worked great but only had half of the maps...should have down this to start with. ..no the only problem is i have a system with only half the maps i need , i paid for the sd chip and it sucked. WHAT DO I DO NOW???? Keep looking for the full version of city nav north american nt 2010 for the kenwood KNA-G510 on the internet? If ANYONE has a great idea extraextraextra@cox.net email me..!!!!

09-26-2009, 9:58 AM	#51
HumVee Join Date: May 11 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,254	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I'm sorry, ILOVETHIS, but I don't understand the scenario you're describing. If you purchased a preloaded map card from Garmin, there would be no updating involved - just install the SD card into your Garmin GPS & power it up. One of the downsides of purchasing preloaded map cards is that they can not be updated - you have to purchase a new version map card if you want the latest update. Their advantage is that if you have multiple Garmin GPS devices, you can quickly move the map from device to device. Personally, I only buy the CD/DVD version maps. That way I can load them into MapSource on my computer as well as download them to my GPS. If the update wasn't a map update (say a firmware/software update), then I could see how it might get corrupted and mess up your GPS - but the solution to fix it wouldn't be to slap in an illegal copy of a map. If the firmware was corrupted, then doing a hard reset, re-installing an update or sending the GPS in to the factory would be the solutions I would expect.... If you're saying that your Garmin locks up whenever you insert the preloaded SD card you purchased from Garmin, then I'd suggest you contact Garmin and ask for a replacement!

09-28-2009, 3:02 PM	#52
habramowski Join Date: Jan 01 2008 Location: Los Angeles County Posts: 5	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I bit the bullet about a month ago and bought the Garmin 2010 update SD. As far as I can see - for where I live, los angeles, and my sisters area, suburb of Charlotte NC - the garmin 2010 MAP on SD was a complete ripoff. NOTHING NEW appears or is known. my base system was a 2006 map. the upgrade is suppose to be 2010. And yet - all my LA COI are as incomplete today as they were before the SD upgrade. my two cents...........

09-29-2009, 5:09 AM	#53
HumVee Join Date: May 11 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,254	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates SD is a complete map, not an upgrade. All Garmin downloads & preloaded map cards are not upgradeable. The only map items that I know of that are upgradeable/updateable are the road maps on CD or DVD. Go into map options and deselect your 2006 map and make sure the 2010 map is selected. You still may not notice any new POI's or roads marked - in which case I commiserate with you....

10-25-2009, 7:08 PM	#54
drdave00 Join Date: Sep 20 2009 Location: Fort Mcmurray Posts: 7	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates I just updated my kna to NT 2010 maps with the Garmin SD card. I just put card in slot on kna and started vehicle,checked my nav map settings and 2010 was enabled!! All my custom POI'S and Favorites were all there! Need to do a road trip to see what is updated.

01-20-2010, 9:17 AM	#55
kristian Join Date: Jan 20 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates Hi, It appears from the Garmin website that the KNA-G510, 520 and 421V uses the same firmware. Does that mean that upgrading the 510 to the latest firmware will give you more voice guidance languages and text-to-speech languages? I'm thinking of Norwegian specifically (which the 520 and 421V lists in the specs).

07-22-2011, 10:27 AM	#56
danko Join Date: Jul 22 2011 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1	Re: KNA-G510 and City navigator Map Updates During the firmware update the screen went blank, I unplugged it after about 15 minutes, but now it shows garmin logo, then restarts, garmin logo again, restarts and it cycles like that. I figure that the firmware is corrupted. Is there any way that I can do hard reset/factory reset on this device?